# Buick Regal Tour X **URL:** \ **Category:** Off-Ramp\ **Created:** [March 27, 2018, 4:23am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450 "2018-03-27T04:23:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![mp11477](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mp11477/32/9283_2.png) [@mp11477](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mp11477)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/41 "2018-10-27T22:47:01Z")
> [@Bjam](#): > > If you could get a Tour X for $199-250 a month That’s a big ask on a 35k Regal. They would take a bath on it when it returned. I paid 295 for the last gen sedan, and they took a 6k hit on it when I gave them back the keys. ---
**Author:** ![joeblogs](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/joeblogs/32/44022_2.png) [@joeblogs](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/joeblogs)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/42 "2018-10-27T23:10:15Z")
I just read an article in the November issue of Car and Driver, sounds it’s not happening. This was straight from BMW ---
**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 11:32pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/43 "2018-10-27T23:32:03Z")
> [@mah4546](#): > > > [@socal59](#): > > > > According to Car and Driver magazine, the new 3 series wagon won’t make it to the states 😤 > > Eh. I bet it does. Wagon buyers are desirable to luxury manufacturers. They are loyal and high wealth. All the European luxury brands sell wagons in the States. BMW won’t be the lone exception. Wagons are an important niche for luxury makers despite the low volume, and now there are rumors circulating the A6 Avant is coming back next year. As much as I like wagons, the rest of the market does not. Look at the USDM demise of the following: C class wagon 5 series wagon All Audi wagons (true ones, not an Allroad) Passat wagon Jetta wagon (yes, Golf wagon exists but with the US Jetta being larger it’s a different niche) Even the ones that are left are imported in tiny quantities (Eg E class). There would be others in an alternative universe (CLA, 1/2 series, etc). ---
**Author:** ![mah4546](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mah4546/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mah4546](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mah4546)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/44 "2018-10-27T23:52:57Z")
> [@max\_g](#): > > > [@mah4546](#): > > > > > [@socal59](#): > > > > > > According to Car and Driver magazine, the new 3 series wagon won’t make it to the states 😤 > > > > Eh. I bet it does. Wagon buyers are desirable to luxury manufacturers. They are loyal and high wealth. All the European luxury brands sell wagons in the States. BMW won’t be the lone exception. Wagons are an important niche for luxury makers despite the low volume, and now there are rumors circulating the A6 Avant is coming back next year. > > As much as I like wagons, the rest of the market does not. Look at the USDM demise of the following: > > C class wagon > 5 series wagon > All Audi wagons (true ones, not an Allroad) > Passat wagon > Jetta wagon (yes, Golf wagon exists but with the US Jetta being larger it’s a different niche) > > Even the ones that are left are imported in tiny quantities (Eg E class). There would be others in an alternative universe (CLA, 1/2 series, etc). The Jetta wagon is still around. The Jetta Wagon has always been a Golf Wagon. It’s just VW decided to give it the Jetta name in the U.S. And look at what we’ve gained - XF, Panamera, V60 returned, V90 returned. And the C wagon returned to Canada, so who knows, could come back to the States, too. Tiny but profitable niche. ---
**Author:** ![mp11477](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mp11477/32/9283_2.png) [@mp11477](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mp11477)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 12:11am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/45 "2018-10-28T00:11:22Z")
I’m not sure how profitable they are if they keep killing them off. ---
**Author:** ![socal59](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/socal59/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@socal59](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/socal59)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 1:43am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/46 "2018-10-28T01:43:04Z")
Here is the article. ![image](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/2X/3/31a34df3c07270a0e962f09a4d1f24095a6d987f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/47 "2018-10-28T14:12:46Z")
No, the Jetta wagon used to be a Golf wagon. Now the Jetta is a different car on a different iteration of its modular architecture. It’s the same size as a Tiguan. In terms of length, wheelbase and rear legroom, the Jetta is appreciably larger than a Golf. If wagons were truly popular, you would see Jetta and Passat wagons in addition to the Golf wagon. We wouldn’t be talking about microscopic volumes of wagons like the Jaguar XF and Panamera ---
**Author:** ![joeblogs](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/joeblogs/32/44022_2.png) [@joeblogs](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/joeblogs)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/48 "2018-10-28T14:24:15Z")
Well the Jetta and the golf are both on the mbq now. As far as dimensions, the wagon version of the golf/jetta, whatever you want to call it were larger than the golf. I think you’re confusing the two. At one point the jetta/golf wagon had the golf front end on euro versions and the jetta front on us versions. Basically when the golf went mbq, they just changed the name to golf sportwagen, even though the wagon has always been jetta size, roughly speaking.(183" ish, + or -) The more wagons are dropped, the more sales for those models that remain. ---
**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/49 "2018-10-28T14:27:47Z")
With MQB being such versatile architecture, being “on it” means nothing. The Atlas is “on it” too. Would you call the Golf the platform-mate of the Atlas in the traditional sense of that term? MQB is not a single platform…or even a platform in the traditional sense. It’s just a set of building blocks, of which only a few components are used throughout the lineup. ---
**Author:** ![joeblogs](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/joeblogs/32/44022_2.png) [@joeblogs](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/joeblogs)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 2:32pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/50 "2018-10-28T14:32:39Z")
That and all the electronics and basic architecture and all the systems. If all the basic parts are the same, lower costs. ---
**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/51 "2018-10-28T18:04:37Z")
The broader point remains, that if wagons were popular here there would be more than one in VW’s lineup. Whether they are Jetta and/or Passat-based wagons and what they’re called doesn’t really matter. ---
**Author:** ![joeblogs](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/joeblogs/32/44022_2.png) [@joeblogs](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/joeblogs)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/52 "2018-10-28T18:13:47Z")
But instead Americans like these jacked up wagons that are shorter with less cargo room. ---
**Author:** ![socal59](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/socal59/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@socal59](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/socal59)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/53 "2018-10-28T19:19:46Z")
BMW only sold 2600 wagons this year in the US. So those that have them are special 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Tirpitz](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/tirpitz/32/2670_2.png) [@Tirpitz](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Tirpitz)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/54 "2018-10-30T19:31:12Z")
For those that want a BMW wagon the 3 series F31 wagon will still be offered as a 2019 model along with the G20 sedan version. That is because the G20 wagon version (G21?) won’t go into production until the 2020 model year. At that point, roughly June 2019, the F31 is dead worldwide and if BMW North America sticks to what it is saying no more wagons in the US. If they only moved 2,600 wagons YTD in the US as @socal59 says then you can see why we won’t get the updated version. And remember, you can still get a diesel 330 wagon. Probably in brown too. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![1114](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/1114/32/47536_2.png) [@1114](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/1114)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/55 "2018-11-25T14:30:02Z")
Anyone buy A Tourx lately? As of 11/2018, dealers are telling me that the residual on a lease is 45%. This is a unique car in the US but it doesn’t make sense to lease or buy it. The car is made in Europe by Peugeot and has a Japanese trans. Without a warranty this car is very risky for repairs. So buying it isn’t worth it for the long term. If Buick could have built it in the US with standard parts it would be a winner. Is anyone awake at Buick? ---
**Author:** ![mp11477](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mp11477/32/9283_2.png) [@mp11477](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mp11477)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/56 "2018-11-25T15:03:00Z")
Regals are terrible leases, but there’s a lot of wrong in what you’re saying. > [@1114](#): > > The car is made in Europe by Peugeot It’s a rebadged Opel Insignia. GM owned Opel at the time so the tooling is all GM. Peugeot is licensed to use the tooling until 2023 I believe. > [@1114](#): > > Without a warranty this car is very risky for repairs. Not really. Many of the parts are also used on a Malibu, Impala + Lacrosse, so repairs shouldn’t be an issue at all. It’s built on GMs E2xx platform. The 2.0T is a widely used GM engine. ---
**Author:** ![Tirpitz](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/tirpitz/32/2670_2.png) [@Tirpitz](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Tirpitz)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 2:23am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/57 "2018-11-26T02:23:04Z")
45% residual in November? Then the base numbers continue to get worse. > [@Tirpitz](#): > > March = 61% residual, .00085 MF > > July = 55% residual, .00062 MF > > September = 48% residual, .00122 MF ---
**Author:** ![mp11477](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mp11477/32/9283_2.png) [@mp11477](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mp11477)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/58 "2018-11-26T12:41:51Z")
For November, '18: 19 Sportback (All trims except GS AWD): **24 27 36 39 42 48** 52 51 46 43 40 35 19 GS AWD **24 27 36 39 42 48** 52 51 47 44 41 35 19 TourX **24 27 36 39 42 48** 55 53 46 43 41 36 18 Sportback (All trims except GS AWD): **24 27 36 39 42 48** 49 47 41 38 36 31 18 GS AWD **24 27 36 39 42 48** 50 48 42 39 37 32 18 TourX **24 27 36 39 42 48** 53 51 45 42 40 35 Based on 15k/yr. For 10k, add 2pts for 24-27, 3pts for 36-42 + 4pts for 48 For 12k, add 1pt for 24-27, 2pts for 36-42 + 3 pts for 48 MF 19 Sportback .00148 (24-27), .00248 (36-39) .00266 (42-48) 19 TourX .00112 (24-27), .00151 (36-39), .00209 (42-48) -0- GMF Lease cash on either 18 Sportback .00122 (24-27), .00179 (36-39), .00231 (42-48) 18 TourX .00102 (24-27), .00150 (36-39), .00197 (42-48) 1,000 GMF CCR on any term for both models ---
**Author:** ![Tirpitz](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/tirpitz/32/2670_2.png) [@Tirpitz](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Tirpitz)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 8:44pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/59 "2018-11-27T20:44:31Z")
I guess on the plus side because the Regal isn’t made in the US it didn’t get canceled. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![mp11477](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/mp11477/32/9283_2.png) [@mp11477](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mp11477)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450/60 "2018-11-27T20:45:57Z")
Now that they sold off Opel, who designed this and the last model, I’m not so sure you’ll see another iteration moving forward. As of now, PSA is licensed to build until 2023. [Previous page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/buick-regal-tour-x/38450.md?page=4)