Agreed. Absolute nonsense.
What about the core function of the driving? How does DAPP compare to Autopilot, with driving, steering, lane centering, obstacle awareness, max speed, etc.?
Yeah my wife actually took the i4 e35 in for service because she couldnāt believe how unsettled it felt when turning compared to a normal BMW or her model 3 performance. We have the 19ā wheels too.
Anyway, wouldnāt recommend the e35 if someoneās coming from a performance model 3 unless they did a test drive. M50 is the way to go.
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I wonder if there is something wrong with your i4. Iām on my 3rd i4 (1 with 19s, 2 with standard 18s) and they all drive like regular BMW sedans. Iāve also had several Teslas (S, 3 M3s, 2 MYs).
East Bay BMW had the car for a week.
They said the i4 e35 was tuned like a RWD model 3. It isnāt supposed to feel like a BMW. They added if you want a proper BMW stay with ICE or get a M50. Shrug.
I mean the e35 is drivable, it just feels way over boosted on the steering so it feels floaty/airy/twitchy. Not attributes of BMW IMO.
I usually attribute some of the steering complaints with the e35 to lesser optioned models that donāt have the variable sport steering from the dynamic handling package or Msport trim. Full disclosure, Iām driving an M50.
Yeah I was buying off the floor so no M sports. All I could get was DAPP and the park assist.
Btw @Ice on e35 look for the ZDY package.
Like this insane priced one @IAC has.
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Tracking is next levelā¦ but the Model 3 Performance does fine with snappy lane changes, going down a windy highway road, or otherwise just merging with traffic at speed.
The problem my wife encounters is that the same snappy lane changes, curves in roads, and merges in a BMW i4 e35 feel squirrely. She hates how the car responds to any steering input that puts any stress on the chassis. The same actions in the loaner 330i or her old 328i are great.
I kind of see what sheās feeling ā¦ the BMW i4 we have has steering feel more like an Infiniti M37 sedan.
I have I4 X drive 19" rims.
It gives me 160 miles for %80 at 45 F in Boston on the console.
Is this normal?
Your EPA rated efficiency is 340 Wh/mile (xdrive w/ 19s). Better to compare this number to your average. Iāve found the range is never accurate at first startup, it adjusts as you drive, especially when cold and not pre-heated.
Sounds like alignment. It might be in spec, but it can still cause issues, especially as you approach toe out. I assume the dealer checked it when you brought it in, did they give you the alignment sheet? Tires/ pressures would be the second place to look.
Should I preheat all the time?
Preheating, especially while plugged in, will improve initial efficiency. In my experience, it will also help to give a more accurate initial range estimate.
I changed the comfort driving settings to Sport and left the engine on Comfort. Steering feels alot better.
Edit: should be clearer, comfort mode: steering sport, motor or whatever itās called to comfort
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The steering is just as sharp on the RWD and LR trims. For enjoyment factor I highly recommend buying whatever fits in your budget that will leave space for mods.
East Bay BMW found nothing amiss. Just said donāt get an i4 if you want BMW handling or driving feel. They got a 330i to sell people that want BMW driving feel.
Thereās a problem with your car. Iām not surprised your dealer said otherwise. If you want to address the issue Iād get the alignment checked/ adjusted at a reputable place with a digital rack, ideally one that that sets up cars for competition, and have them print out the before and after values for every wheel.
If you havenāt done alignments for competition youād be shocked at how much it impacts the handling of the car. It could be other things too, a bad shock, etc, but alignment is where Iād start without driving it. Obviously feel free to ignore the advice but I did test cars professionally for a bit and I like to think I know what Iām talking about. The i4 is not supposed to handle as youāre describing. Somethingās wrong.
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Iām not going to go out of pocket to get this budget i4 on a Hunter Hawkeye and check the toeā¦
The car definitely drives worse than the e35 my wife test drove. But as East Bay BMW says, if you want a real BMW donāt get a EV lololol
These are the same guys that couldnāt find any problem even though your wife noticed the car had an obvious issue vs the one she test drove? And you believe this dealer why?
Meanwhile Car and Driver says: āWe actually give the i4 M50 credit for having better ride-and-handling than the M3, which is already one of our favorite high-performance sedans.ā
But the dealer with a financial interest in āitās fineā is a much more credible source, right?
Hint: there are times you shouldnāt trust a car dealer. Understand if youāre not spending the money on your wifeās short term lease, but Iād be careful generalizing to Tesla M3 vs i4 when your car clearly has an issue.
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Because thereās no other local dealer Iām going to take this in to and get it resolved. Posting on LH takes all my free time. I donāt feel like having another dealer tell me the i4 is a weak excuse for a BMW.
As I noted above, The dealer did say a i4 M50 was a proper bmw. But not the i4 e35.
Anyway, if someone is coming from a performance model 3 they should be weary about a e35 and should do a test drive. Try to get that M sport package.
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Fair enough. And Iāll admit I have a particular axe to grind with the Tesla Model 3, which has deeply flawed and in my mind unforgivable stability control behavior at/ over the limit if youāre not in track mode. Despite which I put 90k miles on my Model 3 and would generally recommend it to most with the right expectationsā¦