# Bad lease deal on 2023 Q4 etron. Lesson learned **URL:** \ **Category:** Ask the Hackrs\ **Tags:** ca, suv, audi, ca-norcal\ **Created:** [May 23, 2023, 8:37am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420 "2023-05-23T08:37:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 91
**Author:** ![noobleasr](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/noobleasr/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@noobleasr](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/noobleasr)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 6:41am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/91 "2023-05-31T06:41:11Z")
> [@Signed: 2023 E-Tron Premium - $76k MSRP - $1078/mon after $10k+ negative equity rollover - $3650 DAS + Max MSDs - 36/7.5](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-e-tron-premium-76k-msrp-1078-mon-after-10k-negative-equity-rollover-3650-das-max-msds-36-7-5/473209/1): > > Here is the unofficial part 2 of [Bad lease deal on 2023 Q4 etron. Lesson learned](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420)? You might want to read that first for context as well as shits and giggles. Here’s the calculator, I fudged the numbers a little bit + too lazy to input upfront fees. Takeaway Basically, we took a shit on my trade in value to trade for 5% more off MSRP to pay less taxes, which lowered my overall monthly. Without trade in and just 10% off, monthly could be a bit under $700, but I would have to eat an upfront $8… --- _[View the full topic](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420)._