# Bad lease deal on 2023 Q4 etron. Lesson learned **URL:** \ **Category:** Ask the Hackrs\ **Tags:** ca, suv, audi, ca-norcal\ **Created:** [May 23, 2023, 8:37am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420 "2023-05-23T08:37:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Ameer](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/ameer/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Ameer](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Ameer)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/81 "2023-05-26T18:41:08Z")
Welcome! But even without knowing this website why would you think paying $42K for 3 years on a $58K vehicle is worth it? I understand happy wife happy life but that monthly payment is Escalade territory from what I remember. At least now you know about this website. ---
**Author:** ![Sarafil](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/sarafil/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Sarafil](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Sarafil)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 6:54pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/82 "2023-05-26T18:54:30Z")
This deal shows total of $29k down - 15k rebate and 14k customer cash. Are you planning to put $14k cash down? ---
**Author:** ![noobleasr](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/noobleasr/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@noobleasr](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/noobleasr)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/83 "2023-05-26T19:06:39Z")
No that would be hella stupid lol. 11k is from MSDs ---
**Author:** ![jeisensc](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/jeisensc/32/224821_2.png) [@jeisensc](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/jeisensc)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/84 "2023-05-26T20:55:52Z")
> [@SoCalLease](#): > > trying to learn from this so as not to make the same mistake. He would be paying for ~70% of the car over 3 years, and that makes no sense. But what percentage would you say might make sense? Is there a goal? There is no rule of thumb. For me, on a 36 month lease: no more than half, less is better. But sometimes you are paying all rent (those 93-99% Nissan RVs from earlier this year) and if it’s something that depreciates less than the RV and the MF is very low, % might not matter. The punchline here is: if you have paid _most_ of the cost of the car by renting it for 3 years, just buy the car. ---
**Author:** ![Bumboola](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/bumboola/32/217759_2.png) [@Bumboola](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Bumboola)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/85 "2023-05-27T17:26:41Z")
> [@Ameer](#): > > that monthly payment is Escalade territory from what I remember. Definitely not escalade money anymore ---
**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 6:16pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/86 "2023-05-27T18:16:53Z")
Even half is too much IMO ---
**Author:** ![SoCalLease](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/socallease/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@SoCalLease](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/SoCalLease)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/87 "2023-05-28T03:58:02Z")
So what is your cutoff? ---
**Author:** ![jeisensc](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/jeisensc/32/224821_2.png) [@jeisensc](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/jeisensc)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 4:03am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/88 "2023-05-28T04:03:41Z")
It depends entirely on the lease I’m looking at and a lease-vs-buy comparison. ---
**Author:** ![noobleasr](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/noobleasr/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@noobleasr](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/noobleasr)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 2:51am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/89 "2023-05-31T02:51:05Z")
Hey, thought you might appreciate an update. I couldn’t get the numbers to work on an Etron GT, but I got it done on a 2023 etron. My new monthly is now $150 less 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BigNerd](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/bignerd/32/148824_2.png) [@BigNerd](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/BigNerd)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 6:40am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/90 "2023-05-31T06:40:13Z")
Does this mean you are paying $1050/mo for an ETron? Which one and what are the terms? ---
**Author:** ![noobleasr](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/noobleasr/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@noobleasr](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/noobleasr)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 6:41am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/91 "2023-05-31T06:41:11Z")
> [@Signed: 2023 E-Tron Premium - $76k MSRP - $1078/mon after $10k+ negative equity rollover - $3650 DAS + Max MSDs - 36/7.5](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/signed-2023-e-tron-premium-76k-msrp-1078-mon-after-10k-negative-equity-rollover-3650-das-max-msds-36-7-5/473209/1): > > Here is the unofficial part 2 of [Bad lease deal on 2023 Q4 etron. Lesson learned](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420)? You might want to read that first for context as well as shits and giggles. Here’s the calculator, I fudged the numbers a little bit + too lazy to input upfront fees. Takeaway Basically, we took a shit on my trade in value to trade for 5% more off MSRP to pay less taxes, which lowered my overall monthly. Without trade in and just 10% off, monthly could be a bit under $700, but I would have to eat an upfront $8… ---
**Author:** ![Samaudibh](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/samaudibh/32/158900_2.png) [@Samaudibh](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Samaudibh)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 6:47am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/92 "2023-05-31T06:47:46Z")
Escalade ?? You’re lucky to get a 90k car for $1400 a month for 48 months . ---
**Author:** ![Ameer](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/ameer/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Ameer](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Ameer)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 12:15pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/93 "2023-05-31T12:15:02Z")
I meant to say before Covid but now it sky rocketed ---
**Author:** ![system](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/f/7/f76e5433b417879e07ad6f0cee47e239c8f1cdd4.png) [@system](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2023, 12:15pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/bad-lease-deal-on-2023-q4-etron-lesson-learned/471420/94 "2023-07-30T12:15:19Z")
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