# Audi Q5 Premium Plus - 2020 Lease Offer - Signed

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**Category:** Ask the Hackrs\
**Tags:** suv, audi\
**Created:** [January 22, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144 "2020-01-22T19:51:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![HaroldMiner](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/haroldminer/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@HaroldMiner](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/HaroldMiner)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/1 "2020-01-22T19:51:48Z")

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All - would like your insight on the below deal.

MSRP: $51,550  
Selling Price; $46,420  
Rebate: $750  
Total Savings + Rebate: $5,880  
License: $767  
Document: $150  
Residual Value: 28,868  
Total Due at Signing: $1,024  
Monthly Payment $624 (taxes included - WA state, 10.1%

36M/10K Miles

 ![image](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/f/1/f183fc99e23b6a073793fd2a9e828adfa68585fc.png)

I can’t get the Lease Hackr calculator to line up with the payment offered…  
[Leasehackr Calculator - Hack your next lease | Leasehackr](http://leasehackr.com/calculator?make=Audi&miles=10000&msd=0&msrp=51550&sales_price=46420&months=36&mf=.00073&dp=0&dealer_fee=150&acq_fee=0&taxed_inc=750&untaxed_inc=0&rebate=0&resP=56&reg_fee=767&sales_tax=10.3&demo_mileage=0&memo=&monthlyTax_radio=true)

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/2 "2020-01-22T21:47:08Z")

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Doesn’t sound very compelling IMO

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**Author:** ![HaroldMiner](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/haroldminer/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@HaroldMiner](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/HaroldMiner)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/3 "2020-01-22T21:50:40Z")

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Lease offers in Seattle are brutal

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**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/4 "2020-01-23T01:15:06Z")

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@28firefighter or @jamiemose might have some ideas

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**Author:** ![28firefighter](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/28firefighter/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@28firefighter](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/28firefighter)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/5 "2020-01-23T04:51:53Z")

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Try Portland. But Audi is a slog up here.

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**Author:** ![majestictorment](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/majestictorment/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@majestictorment](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/majestictorment)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/6 "2020-01-23T05:16:54Z")

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Agreed. Audi Wilsonville seems more competitive than Beaverton, but this isn’t a good deal on a Q5.

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**Author:** ![HaroldMiner](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/haroldminer/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@HaroldMiner](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/HaroldMiner)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 5:42am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/7 "2020-01-23T05:42:19Z")

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What should I be aiming for?

10% off MSRP and a MV of .00073. With essentially zero down did not seem terrible to me.

Interested in opinions, definitely new to the Lease game.

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**Author:** ![majestictorment](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/majestictorment/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@majestictorment](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/majestictorment)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 6:08am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/8 "2020-01-23T06:08:07Z")

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You should be able to replicate the deal in the calculator. The Money Factor is most likely marked up, which is why it’s not coming out right. Ask for a full breakout of the quote — they should give that to you without issue. And I think there is a little more discount achievable. May depend on how long it’s been on the lot.

PNW is though, but you should be able to get 12% off. Also, AudiCare may help. It’s 999 but it adds 1% to the residual and covers all maintenance costs through 40k miles. I think you’re close. If you’re getting base MF your calculator shows a score of 8.0 which is a good deal.

Your taxes and registration are really high! Come down to Oregon 😉

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**Author:** ![niupitang](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/niupitang/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@niupitang](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/niupitang)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 7:01am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/9 "2020-01-23T07:01:32Z")

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Some OR dealers can’t do lease outstate.

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**Author:** ![HaroldMiner](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/haroldminer/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@HaroldMiner](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/HaroldMiner)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 7:38am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/10 "2020-01-23T07:38:45Z")

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Here are the screenshots of the deal from the Dealer.

Does anyone know what the $917 Additional Add On fee is for?

I didn’t have the $895 acquisition fee in the calculator originally.

In terms of next steps, should I just be blunt and say I need another 2%/$1K knocked off…?

 ![lease breakdown~2](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/e/b/eb96833a23e7e06b07288a6dedd152d5cd51b8bc.png)

 ![Cole Upfront fees breakdown](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/2/3/2348ca5aed9c0dd2205fc6a9de92899703ade902.png)

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 8:32am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/11 "2020-01-23T08:32:09Z")

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Have you test driven the Q5? Really not worth it.

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**Author:** ![HaroldMiner](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/haroldminer/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@HaroldMiner](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/HaroldMiner)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:04am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/12 "2020-01-24T03:04:56Z")

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For the life of me I cannot get the Calculator to line up with the payments provided by the Dealer.

Can someone help me out?

I manually calculated the MF and it’s accurate at .00073.

All fees are accounted for in the calculator. At this point I think the calculator is off and the dealer is correct. Based on the screenshots they provided.

Help please!

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**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/13 "2020-01-24T03:13:12Z")

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> [@HaroldMiner](#):
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> All fees are accounted for in the calculator. At this point I think the calculator is off and the dealer is correct

Calculator is off by about $100 up front because of how the upfront taxes are calculated.

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**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:14am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/14 "2020-01-24T03:14:19Z")

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> [@majestictorment](#):
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> calculator shows a score of 8.0 which is a good deal

Calculator score is not a useful metric of if it’s a good or bad deal.

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**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/15 "2020-01-24T03:16:22Z")

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> [@HaroldMiner](#):
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> Interested in opinions, definitely new to the Lease game

What does Edmunds say for RV/MF/incentives?

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:00am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/16 "2020-01-24T06:00:28Z")

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Edmunds has $750 (which I’m getting) and .00043

Help me understand what constitutes a “good deal”.

IMO 10% off MSRP and an APR of less than 1.75% is not bad. I can’t control the egregious taxes that WA state applies.

If I got 12% off we are talking about ~$35 off per month. While not nothing, that’s not enough for me to feel like I’m getting screwed.

Are ppl actually negotiating ~15% off MSRP?

Just trying to understand folks mindset and what is reasonable.

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**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 6:08am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/17 "2020-01-24T06:08:59Z")

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Well, to start, they’re marking up the mf .0003, which account for about $900 in extra cost, or roughly 2% discount, so you’re only getting about 8% off MSRP. Compare that to other q5 deals on here and I think you’ll find that is quite low.

As a quick comparison (although it’s a 19 and at the end of the year, so I wouldn’t expect as much discount): [Lease deal check on 2019 Audi Q5 P+ - $494/mo inc. tax](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/lease-deal-check-on-2019-audi-q5-p-494-mo-inc-tax/208835)

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:07am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/18 "2020-01-24T07:07:36Z")

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Have you considered: [Autopia Audi Thread Socal+ NorCal |January 2020 " Q5 P+ PHEV/ MSRP 58k/ DAS: $2900+MSDs/ 630+tax](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/autopia-audi-thread-socal-norcal-january-2020-q5-p-phev-msrp-58k-das-2900-msds-630-tax/218194)

or [Last 10 days of Jan Audi Deals California Residents Only](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/last-10-days-of-jan-audi-deals-california-residents-only/222809/8)

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 7:52am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/19 "2020-01-24T07:52:26Z")

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Appreciate the links. This offer is essentially what I am getting as well. Little less DOS for me. Makes me think my offer is not terrible. I know it’s not great but if the below is a “good deal” then I should be alright.

5- 2019 Audi Q5 P+  
MSRP: 54k  
36/10k  
Due on signing: 2200  
Monthly: 554+tax  
With MSDs: 518+tax

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**Post date:** [January 25, 2020, 2:01am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q5-premium-plus-2020-lease-offer-signed/223144/20 "2020-01-25T02:01:57Z")

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I got someone to come down to $45,500 on a slightly higher MSRP $52,395 but they JACKED the MF up. Payment is actually slightly lower at $613 so we are making progress but I can’t sign this deal and have this guy knowing he got one over on me with the MF.

I honestly appreciate the craft at this point and this whole thing has been more fun than I thought going in. At this point I’m looking at it as a game to be won more than anything.

Appreciate this forum immensely as I am sure there are folks getting screwed out there constantly.

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