# Audi Q3 Lease Ending... Next Sub Lux SUV Deals? **URL:** \ **Category:** Ask the Hackrs\ **Tags:** ca-socal\ **Created:** [May 26, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172 "2021-05-26T22:03:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nycbrk1985](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/nycbrk1985/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@nycbrk1985](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/nycbrk1985)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/1 "2021-05-26T22:03:42Z")
Hi guys, new here and hope I can gain some insight. Los Angeles here with a couple questions. I have an Audi Q3 that I’ve been leasing for $349/month after some haggling. Lease is up 7/31. I have been asking Audi to tell me what I could trade in for at the same budget, and they’ve been telling me the best they can do is $500/month for another Q3! That pissed me off and led me to this forum. _Question 1_: After reading this forum, I checked the financials. The residual value is $21,289.50, and the Audi buyout quote is $21,564.87. Carvana has offered me $28,357 for it and CarMax offered me $25,800. I barely drove it since I was bicoastal (7500 miles in 3 years) so it seems I can sell it and get some equity to throw into my IRA. Why not – is that the smart move? Would be great to pocket $7K and not give it back to Audi. If so, do I transfer the registration to a new car before I sell it? I already paid for the DMV registration for the next year. _Question 2:_ The next step is what car to get next. I know it’s Memorial Day weekend, so I was thinking it might be a good time to get a new car this weekend and settle the Audi as a separate transaction. Is that correct? I like the footprint of the Q3 a lot, and don’t want to pay more than $350-400/month for the car payment. Ideally I want $0 DAS out of principle. I have great 800+ credit. Cars I like, but open to suggestions: - Audi Q3 - Volvo CX40 - Jeep Grand Cherokee - Mercedes GLA - ??? _Question 3:_ I have heard it said on this forum that now is a horrible time to lease. I think I understand that given that my lease somehow has increased in equity but I still don’t totally understand why. What about buying a car? I could also afford it, but honestly given that I know so little about cars, I just prefer to trade in every three years and get something new, without worrying about the transmission breaking or whatever. But if right now I really get screwed with a lease and it makes more sense to buy, I am open to buying. Any leads on how and where I should be looking? Or any blind spots I have in this approach? I’m great with tech, but I’m in way over my head in this industry even after reading a lot of the posts here. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![jeisensc](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/jeisensc/32/224821_2.png) [@jeisensc](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/jeisensc)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/2 "2021-05-26T22:10:52Z")
> [@nycbrk1985](#): > > That pissed me off and led me to this forum. Welcome. Not sure that’s a question but got it. > [@nycbrk1985](#): > > Would be great to pocket $7K and not give it back to Audi. > > If so, do I transfer the registration to a new car before I sell it? > I already paid for the DMV registration for the next year. Plenty of threads here and experiences. Yes separate this out from replacing it. In CA you lit that registration money on fire unfortunately. You can also extend this lease if you need more time. > [@nycbrk1985](#): > > I know it’s Memorial Day weekend, so I was thinking it might be a good time to get a new car this weekend Holidays and deals are not correlated. But you do need a new car if you sell this one. > [@nycbrk1985](#): > > don’t want to pay more than $350/month for the car payment. Ideally I want $0 DAS out of principle. I have great 800+ credit. Cars I like, but open to suggestions: > > - Audi Q3 > - Volvo CX40 > - Jeep Grand Cherokee > - Mercedes GLA > - ??? Yeah none of these are going to lease at $350/mo with tax on a sign and drive. You need to do more research on the replacement side. Search the Marketplace and Shared deals to recalibrate your expectations. > [@nycbrk1985](#): > > heard it said on this forum that now is a horrible time to lease To transact at all, lease or buy. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Bluemkn57cars](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/bluemkn57cars/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Bluemkn57cars](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Bluemkn57cars)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/3 "2021-05-26T22:12:40Z")
> [@nycbrk1985](#): > > After reading this forum, I checked the financials. > The residual value is $21,289.50, and the Audi buyout quote is $21,564.87. > Carvana has offered me $28,357 for it and CarMax offered me $25,800. Make sure you are getting the 3rd party buyout from AFS, since it could be higher than your personal buyout. ---
**Author:** ![Muwa](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/muwa/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Muwa](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Muwa)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/4 "2021-05-26T22:17:16Z")
There is a chip shortage, but SoCal is a competitive market. Let’s say you can get 8% off a Q3. On a 36/10 you are looking at a RV of 57% and a MF of 0.00147. I heard something or other about Q3/A3 loyalty but I can’t be bothered to look that up. I’m going to assume that your tax rate is 10.25%. [You should be at $620 /month on a 45k premium plus 45 engine.](https://leasehackr.com/calculator?make=Audi&miles=10000&msd=0&msrp=45000&sales_price=41400&months=36&mf=.00147&dp=0&dealer_fee=85&acq_fee=895&taxed_inc=0&untaxed_inc=0&rebate=0&resP=57®_fee=400&sales_tax=10.25&demo_mileage=0&memo=&monthlyTax_radio=true&bmw_demo_25=true) If you have a dealer match what carvana or vroom are paying, and you have 7k in positive equity, [you are at $426/month.](https://leasehackr.com/calculator?make=Audi&miles=10000&msd=0&msrp=45000&sales_price=41400&months=36&mf=.00147&dp=6000&dealer_fee=85&acq_fee=895&taxed_inc=0&untaxed_inc=0&rebate=0&resP=57®_fee=400&sales_tax=10.25&demo_mileage=0&memo=&monthlyTax_radio=true&bmw_demo_25=true). Every other car you mentioned is going to lease similiarly as they compete and have similiar RVs, MFs, and lack of incentives. Until the manufacturer brings back incentives you have to pay to play. ---
**Author:** ![Blueapple](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/blueapple/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Blueapple](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Blueapple)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/5 "2021-05-26T22:19:08Z")
Consider an X1 or RDX too, but getting $350 with $0 DAS isn’t gonna hit there either. Really only option is being open to paying more or consider a sedan–there are deals out there on ILX, TLX, 2 series, A4, and S60–but even then many of them will be over $350 once you add tax and inception fees. ---
**Author:** ![jeisensc](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/jeisensc/32/224821_2.png) [@jeisensc](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/jeisensc)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/6 "2021-05-26T22:21:05Z")
> [@Blueapple](#): > > Consider an X1 or RDX too, but getting $350 with $0 DAS isn’t gonna hit there either. I doubt $450 is possible on a sign and drive right now, without loyalty/OL/etc. Volvo and Acura have conquest on some models, but it doesn’t get you close. ---
**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 10:36pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/7 "2021-05-26T22:36:32Z")
> [@Muwa](#): > > If you have a dealer match what carvana or vroom are paying, and you have 7k in positive equity, [you are at $426/month](https://leasehackr.com/calculator?make=Audi&miles=10000&msd=0&msrp=45000&sales_price=41400&months=36&mf=.00147&dp=6000&dealer_fee=85&acq_fee=895&taxed_inc=0&untaxed_inc=0&rebate=0&resP=57®_fee=400&sales_tax=10.25&demo_mileage=0&memo=&monthlyTax_radio=true&bmw_demo_25=true) Let’s not conflate what’s going here… that’s $636/mo for a q3 ---
**Author:** ![Muwa](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/muwa/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@Muwa](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Muwa)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/8 "2021-05-26T22:39:21Z")
The only right answer here is the 4xe 😂 ---
**Author:** ![max\_g](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/max_g/32/9426_2.png) [@max\_g](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/max_g)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 10:56pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/9 "2021-05-26T22:56:50Z")
Mercedes GLB perhaps ---
**Author:** ![mah4546](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mah4546/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mah4546](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mah4546)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 6:10am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/10 "2021-05-27T06:10:15Z")
Audi charges third parties the market price if they buy out the lease. Your payout is $21,5xx and the Audi’s dealer payout is the same, but Carvana or anybody will else will get a random market price number that might be close to $28k. So you’ll probably make the most money selling to an Audi dealer. The good thing is, the Audi dealer will probably pay more than $21,5xx for it. Did you lease your previously Q3 for $350 and $0 DAS? That’s a great deal. You won’t find that in this market for anything you are looking for. Are you open to sedans? ---
**Author:** ![paranoidgarliclover](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/paranoidgarliclover/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@paranoidgarliclover](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/paranoidgarliclover)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 6:17am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/11 "2021-05-27T06:17:43Z")
Toyota Venza? ---
**Author:** ![Kellstar](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/user_avatar/forum.leasehackr.com/kellstar/32/233804_2.png) [@Kellstar](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/Kellstar)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 6:42am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/12 "2021-05-27T06:42:06Z")
OP is in CA, if Audi gets the title to them fast enough they can do the buyout and sell it to Carvana without being taxed. ---
**Author:** ![mah4546](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mah4546/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mah4546](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mah4546)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 7:03am UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/13 "2021-05-27T07:03:04Z")
Yeah I’m in CA too, I wouldn’t trust it can all be done in the 10 day window these days. ---
**Author:** ![nycbrk1985](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/nycbrk1985/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@nycbrk1985](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/nycbrk1985)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/14 "2021-05-27T16:19:38Z")
Hey there, if you wouldn’t mind, could you explain a bit more about this for me? I read on here something about the 10 day transfer and avoiding tax; can you explain? So – if I sell to Audi, they get me the title, and then I re-sell it directly to Carvana, all in 10 days, I can keep the difference and avoid tax where? Sales tax the amount I buy it from Audi? Or income tax on the profit from selling it to Carvana? ---
**Author:** ![purz](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/purz/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@purz](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/purz)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/15 "2021-05-27T16:21:18Z")
Other than the people that had leases ending early on when used car prices shot up (even then it was mostly the usual vehicles that sometimes are positive anyways that had good markup) everyone else is going to have to sacrifice some of the lucky profits if they need a new vehicle. I wasn’t super happy with our Venza price and my truck price was fine but overall between the money selling our old leases and going 8 months with 1 car we still ended up netting a good amount of money. Right now you’re not going to get any of those vehicles for ~$400 and if you need something you’re prolly gonna have to cough up some of that 7k or lease something less desriable. ---
**Author:** ![mllcb42](https://leasehackr.b-cdn.net/letter_avatar/mllcb42/32/5_5575768a8748004e209b776fc1b2916d.png) [@mllcb42](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/mllcb42)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/16 "2021-05-27T16:26:06Z")
> [@nycbrk1985](#): > > So – if I sell to Audi, they get me the title, and then I re-sell it directly to Carvana, all in 10 days, I can keep the difference and avoid tax where? Sales tax the amount I buy it from Audi? Or income tax on the profit from selling it to Carvana? > [@Third Party Lease Buyout](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/third-party-lease-buyout/288276): > > I recently went through a third-party lease buyout in California. I often see the question on how this is done so I wrote a quick document of my experience: I think the main one I hear is how to avoid paying sales tax twice when selling to a private party. This can be avoided (in CA) by (a) selling you lease within 10 days of acquiring the title from the lessor (b) applying and being approved for a CDTFA-111 from the CDTFA. Note, if you sell to a dealer, the leasing company transfer the ti… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://leasehackr-assets.b-cdn.net/original/3X/f/7/f76e5433b417879e07ad6f0cee47e239c8f1cdd4.png) [@system](https://forum.leasehackr.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/audi-q3-lease-ending-next-sub-lux-suv-deals/363172/17 "2021-07-26T16:26:18Z")
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