I looked around and seems like most of Buick and Volvo’s are selling under MSRP, at least in my area (Atlanta, GA). BMW loaner cars can get some decent % off.
Worst I heard is one local MB dealership, adding 2,500 to MSRP to every single new vehicle.
What other brand you know?
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There isn’t really a “brand” per se, it varies. You may be able to purchase X vehicle at a dealership for $500 off of MSRP, whereas the next guy wants $3K above for the same unit.
Also, a vehicle thousands under MSRP can still be a horrible deal. Again, it depends. I.e. there is a $5,000 incentive available and the dealer only came down $3,000 for the sale price.
BMW depending on the model.
Worst? $2500? Lol. Try to buy a G63 for less than 100K above MSRP.
It’s possible to get one at MSRP, It just won’t be right now.
Yes, but they jack up MF and other things. I have been negotiating on a Lexus for weeks and the dealer keeps trying to shell-game the numbers hoping I will not notice. It’s like whack-a-mole.
Why not make them an offer? At the end of the day, if they agree to your proposal, it should not matter how they get there.
If the dealer you are working with is not being transparent, move onto another dealer or find a broker that services your area.
My $0.02.
Weeks? lol The second round of games and I would drop contact with the dealer. I don’t believe in granting business to shady, borderline dishonest, dealers…whether they eventually give a good deal or not.
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… are you suggesting there’s a potential investment opportunity here for those patient enough to wait till 2025? 
@viva0521, what’s your timeline? That really dictates what game you’re playing here…
There’s still some honest dealers out there, however their waitlists are nothing short of staggering.
Surprised no one has called out how terrible your strategy is.
MSRP is just a made-up number.
Generally discounts off MSRP reflect one or both of two things:
The bigger the POS, the bigger the discount.
The more inflated the sticker, the bigger the discount.
Which do you want to fall for?
Both those rules are broken by the G wagon. 
Who are these people who are fueling these 100k markups, and how do they manage to stay that rich if this is how they make financial decisions
We have a term for that.
More money than sense.
What not save 250k and just have “LA Douchebag” tattooed on your forehead.
I’ve lived in LA for 30+ years now. While I don’t like to judge people by the car they drive, I make an exception with the G wagon.
And no owner has ever proved me wrong.
Chevy dealership near me has an added $5000 ‘market adjustment’ on their 25k trailerblazer.
Did not ask if negotiable.