šŸ’š Andy | Hyundai | August 2022 - Preorder your Vehicle Today! | Buy or Lease Numbers Inside

I can safely say that most NJ dealers had no trouble depleting their EV inventory. If customers were giving up, thatā€™s because they couldnā€™t find the car they wanted, not because it was too expensive compared to Tesla.

Contrary to popular belief, the cars with the most egregious dealear markups (Kona EV Limited) actually sold out first. That was also true last year, except that the car that was being marked up last year was the Ioniq EV Limited. Those $92/month cars had nearly $3k in dealer markup (dealer pocketing most of the CHARGE UP money), and they flew off the shelves. Sure, an $11/month car or sub-$400 3-year cost would have been possible last year if the dealer gutted their markup. But it turns out, the dealers didnā€™t need to sell cars for $11/month when they couldnā€™t keep them in stock for $92/month.

Same thing with the Kona EV this year; the numbers are just bigger and the car is more premium. The inventory shortage made all cars more expensive, and more walk-ins chose EV. The dealers could have gutted the deals, and a few did, but the dealers that went low didnā€™t have enough inventory to go around for all the people that were willing to pay ~$400/mo for them.

Most people are looking for a fair monthly/DAS number when theyā€™re picking out their car. Theyā€™re not trying to maximize rebates or minimize dealer markup, theyā€™re just looking for a bottom-line number. The vocal minority will always come on LH and find something to nitpick at - even when the cars are cheaper than an iPhone payment. We had this last year on my 2020 thread, and weā€™ll have this at any price. I could post $1/mo cars and someone would find a way to complain that they should get paid to take it because the dealer discount could be higher.

Pound for pound, Kona EV is still highly competitive with the ā€œcheaperā€ Teslas and we definitely saw people vote with their wallets by spending Tesla money on Kona EVs this season. Whatā€™s happening is the market perception of EVs is improving. Instead of dealers hearing ā€œWhy would I lease this car when I could lease a gas car? This car canā€™t go anywhere. Iā€™ll get stuck on the charger, give me a deal!ā€ theyā€™re starting to hear ā€œWow, this is cheaper than a Tesla, has great range, has ventilated seats. Itā€™s my dream to go electric. And itā€™s cheaper than I thought.ā€ Market-based pricing responds in kind.

For those that didnā€™t get a Kona EV this year and still want one, donā€™t worry. Last year, the Kona EV got cheaper for the model year closeout without CHARGE UP NJ than it ever did with the state program running. HMF rebates on this car are only $12,500, we saw ~$16k last year. So thereā€™s plenty of hope that Hyundai rebates will bridge the gap!

It doesnā€™t matter how your discount breaks down (dealer/state/manufacturer) as long as youā€™re getting a good bottom-dollar price! Plenty of opportunities are still to come for good prices on EV Hyundai leases in our region.

Plus, if you get a great deal on a Kona EV when CHARGE UP isnā€™t running, you arenā€™t restricted on not flipping it for 3 years. Iā€™m sitting in a very favorable equity position in my Kona EV Ultimate that I leased a few months ago :slight_smile:

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Prices are updated for September. Several models got cheaper, a few ran out of 2021s and thus 2022s are more expensive. Santa Cruz small pickup truck is now available. See the top for prices!

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Looking for a zero down lease on a Santa Cruz, 12k/miles a year. I want a deal! Comparable to my 2019 Honda Accord sport that was 0 down 15k miles a year and 320/month. Or my Lexus IS350 that was 12k/year, 0 down, lexus paid the first month payment and it was 35 months at 413/month.

This putting money down thing is NOT a worth of being posted on lease hacker!!

The deals posted seem to be $0 down payment, but with taxes (in NJ full sales tax over the life of the lease is due upfront), 1st mo, DMV, etc. Did you mean $0 DAS? If so, in NJ that would mean paying sales tax on sales tax as you would now need to capitalize the upfront tax due into the deal. So thereā€™s a reason why thatā€™s not typically done.

Numbers are up-to-date for October!

Notable good pricing on the Sonata and the Kona EV. The Kona EVs are significantly below MSRP which is rare in this market. Should be the lowest price on this model in NJ :slight_smile:

Prices for EVs in the 2nd post, go to the top for pricing sheet shortcuts

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Who are you and what have you done with the REAL Andy?

In all seriousness though, below list in this market is a solid deal.

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LOL. Thank you. If it was up to me, man, the EV cars would be free for all NJ and NY residents.

And, in fact, some of my customers have reported being able to reproduce ā€œfreeā€ with buyout & resale schemes of their own. Nothing that I can really advertise as repeatable, but itā€™s been really interesting to see what people have come up with after starting with one of my lease deals.

As Iā€™ve said time and time again, cars sell for market value. But donā€™t worry too much about the cars that were marked up over MSRP - they sold quickly on their own, and were replaced with different cars that are now selling for under MSRP.

Weā€™re not out of the woods yet on the supply shortages - so itā€™s reasonable to expect that the most in-demand models, colors, and trim-packages may see markups. I canā€™t control that - but what I can control is my accurate and up-to-date pricing sheets that reflect current market conditions!

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Do you work with purchases, or leases only? Iā€™m looking at some good equity coming from my current lease, so leaning towards buying my next car. Curious what the Sonata N Line is going for compared to MSRP.

Hey! I reached out via text and hadnā€™t heard back from you. Please follow up with me. Thank you!

I see you have ioniq ev and Kona ev for NY
Are there Any other federal or state incentives post purchase ?

Texted you yesterday morning need both a Kona and a Elantra happy to lay msrp right in New York and you did not write back, are you working tomorrow?

Everyone should have received a response that was pending one. If you are seeking a response and havenā€™t received one, please text again!

I do support Purchases - however virtually all of my customers choose to lease instead when comparing the numbers. These Hyundai leases are generally the most favorable total-cost-of-ownership for cars in their class. Hyundaiā€™s posture in the market is constantly improving. If the public perception of the Hyundai brand keeps outpacing HMFā€™s residuals, theyā€™re really great cars to lease.

All Available Federal and State incentives are already included in the EV prices that I advertise (with a picture of your state on them). If thereā€™s a picture of NJ or NY on the pricing chart, that means you must be a resident of that state to get that price, because state and federal incentives have already been rolled in for your zip code.

Eric, I understand that you are a competing broker operating commercially here on Leasehackr. Please follow the instructions at REGISTER | LEASEHACKR to register the ā€œBrokerā€ icon on your account. I donā€™t have a referral program in place for other brokers, so I recommend your customers reach out to me directly if you cannot secure a better price as my competitor.

Pricing is accurate for October and I am hard at work on securing more inventory at lower prices this winter!

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Hi!
Sent requests through your website. Intermittent contact via text. Frustrating. Would like to make a deal but seems to be going no where.

As of right now, I donā€™t have any texts unread, and I donā€™t have a convo with your username in it. Shoot me another text with your username so I can better assist!

Terribly sorry for the confusion!!! My mistake all the way! If I could delete previous message I would!! Previous message was not meant for Andy!!!

Hey Andy! I am in a position to lease now, but I also think my current car (bought used '06 Mazda off craigslist 6+ years ago) can hold out for hopefully another month or so. Your deals are the best Iā€™ve seen on this website and in my own research. Should I try to lease now or try to hold out for winter deals? Iā€™ve read that those can be really good, but not sure if this chip and inventory shortage would affect that. I would qualify for the college grad incentive (graduated May 2021) in case that affects your answer at all

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Itā€™s really hard to pin down exactly what the inventory & incentive situation is going to be. Iā€™m careful not to speculate, as conditions can change really quickly.

Hyundai themselves are taking a really tactical approach to this whole thing, so I think they are going to tackle this chip shortage, but probably not completely until late 2022.

Inventory is still light.

I will say that right now, many models are on waitlists. Iā€™ve started to expand my inventory search already to new Hyundais that are arriving at dealers in the next 90 days. So if you inquire with me today, we may be talking about a car thatā€™s still at the factory, on a ship, at the port, etc.

I am hard at work with my dealer partners, trying to continuously improve the accuracy of ETAs on these vehicles. I want to be able to share more data w/the forum ASAP!

I should be able to help you find the vehicle that you need, but please be aware that many of my listed prices are for ā€œinbound unitsā€. Also be aware that incentives and prices are not locked until the month that you actually take delivery.

If you are looking for any new Hyundai model in our region, please donā€™t hesitate to text me. I can give you an idea of the market-day-supply of the specific vehicle model/trim youā€™re looking for. Some inbound units are only 5 days out, some are 10 days out, some are 60 days, some are longer.

If you are specific about what you want, a 90-day lead-time should allow me to locate the exact Hyundai of your dreams.


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2021 Hyundai Elantra sel msrp 23xxx. 36 month 10 k mile zip 11714.

Hi Andy, I dropped you a text message last night. Let me know once you have a chance to look at it. Thanks!

Hi Andy, dropped you a message last night as well. Canā€™t wait to hear back. Zip 12019