A little guide to inexpensive 7 steaters for those with growing broods

So it seems one of the more frequent questions on this forum is about 7 seaters and inexpensive SUVs. It turns out that I too am in the market for one of these having quickly realised that whilst 5 is a lovely number, 7 is much better and is actually a factor of the meaning of life! (@max_g I am going to get that in anywhere I can)

This is, initially, a rather simple list. There are only two inexpensive car that can fit 7 legally, by inexpensive I mean it can be leased comfortably under $300 whilst not going for the very bottom specification as this generally means not getting all the decent safety features most families would want.

These two are.
1, Nissan Rogue SV with the Family package (and preferably with Premium package as well)
2. Mitsubishi Outlander
N.B. Dodge Journey 37% RV, end of story.

Now, having researched these two cars extensively you can basically only consider the Rogue. By all accounts the Mitsubishi is not a good car. I am going off multiple website reviews to come to this conclusion, I have never owned one so perhaps someone can give some real life experience. I have leased three Nissan Rogues in the past 4 months for different friends and they are all very happy with them. The two things that come to mind that have been commented on are the lack of Android Auto or Apply carplay and that when loaded with 7 people it could use a little more power.

These two are definitely occasional 7 seaters rather than full time.

For the Rogue target $2,000 below invoice, I know this is achievable because I have multiple offers at this price. For a $29,XXX car you should end up with a payment of just above $200 a month with standard drive offs and acquisition fee upfront. (Based on June 2017 rebates, MF and residual)

Then we step the payment up $100-$200 a month, basically below $400 a month.

There are plenty of cars in this category however I am going to rule some out because they are old and about to be replaced. Out of the equation are the Chevy Traverse and the Honda Odyssey. The Hyundai Santa Fe just avoids this category because it is over a year away from a full replacement and is still relatively modern.

So the cars here are:

  1. Hyundai Santa Fe SE Ultimate with Ultimate tech pac (The Limited is 6 seats)
  2. Kia Sorento SXL
  3. Dodge Durango GT plus options
  4. Toyota Highlander XLE
  5. Nissan Pathfinder Platinum / Infiniti QX60

Again, I don’t want to focus on bottom spec models here. You can definitely find all of these well under $400 a month if you don’t mind skimping on options but all of the above can be had just under $400 a month. The Durango needs a lot of factors to fall into place to get it there but it can be done.

Of the 5 my actual favorite is the Kia, worst brand identity IMHO but by far the most modern and up to date interior of the bunch, if it had a VW badge on it, it would fly off the lot. Also I have found the SXL leases for the same if not less than the SX with Tech package due to the current incentives. Pathfinder and QX60 basically the same car, very very old and feels tired inside. The Toyota will work for many, new gearbox and engine in 2017 model helps but I can’t help but feel the infotainment is dated and you need the Limited to get parking sensors.

Honorable mention to the new VW Tiguan 2018 model. Will easily come in under $400 a month when launched in July and I am sure will tick many boxes. Also the new Chevy Traverse but that is a few months away and no idea if a decently equipped model will come in under $400.

(All my prices are inc tax and 9.25% LA tax)

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Just to chime in as an actual 2 time Traverse buyer, I can tell you that most folks seriously underestimate the vehicle, especially when it comes to cargo space and actual driving comfort. When we were first looking for a 7 seater for our adventurous 5 person brood with a couple still in strollers at the time, the traverse was the only one of the bunch that would even take our jeep stroller behind the 3rd seat, instead of having to partially fold down part of the 3rd row.

The highlander, which we were originally looking at, and liked the look of a lot, felt like a cramped box in comparison. 39% more cargo space in the same configuration IS actually noticeable AND more useful in day to day life. Now if you don’t have a bunch of kids and their associated stuff, or don’t frequent places like Home Depot, then the significant extra roominess may not matter to you.

The car is also very easy to drive, much more like a car than a truck, and is very comfortable for long trips with a full load of STUFF, as we can attest from our Western States 10K road trip (10,404 Kilometers on that one).

And if you have the little ones, the DVD player is an overpriced godsend, that will turn out to be one of the best investments in your sanity you have ever made. :grinning:

You probably wont be able to get a fully loaded $45k traverse for under $400 including taxes, but I just did that car last week at $400 on a 36/15 with just tax and license due at close. If you wait until near model year end on this car, the discount and rebates can easily add up to 9-10K off MSRP, which does a lot towards making up for the lower residuals.

anyway just my 2 cents…as I constantly see folks poo-poo cars they have never even driven, let alone spent years in.

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Tiguan - 184 hp in a 7 seater…
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kbrauer/2017/06/26/2018-volkswagen-tiguan-a-critical-step-on-volkswagens-road-to-recovery/

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Have you done any digging into the new CX-9? Beautiful car inside and out but from what I’ve seen they’re in high demand and Mazda is not budging on price

Yes, they are lovely cars but I don’t think it is reasonable to expect to find a lease for under $400 for one.

Hey not really sure what features you are into, but I leased a 2017 Pathfinder S Model for 285 per month, and it has worked out great for me. The base model Pathfinder actually comes with quite a bit, for the price I guess. Just throwing it out there.

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hey @S_Singh, you are absolutely right, some of the lower spec models can be had for much less than I have stated. I was making an assumption based on my family needs that the car should have features like emergency collision detection, leather seats (where possible, the Rogue can’t have them with 7 seats), surround view camera etc etc. You will notice it only get a 5 star safety rating in the Platinum specification because of these safety features.

Having said that, my wife sat in it and got straight out, the interior was pretty different from her 2017 X3 we were getting rid of. I would say the Pathfinder is due a bit of a facelift, lots of legacy plastic switchgear all over the cabin which looked like it was straight out of a 90’s Civic.

Hey Ed,

I’ve been looking into cx 9 leases and for the touring trim you can get around $375 tax included with a $2000 drive off. I am not sure if that is good or not since I really haven’t seen much on what those suv are going for.

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Sounds good, does that include the touring pack which has lots of useful features?

Yeah it was for FWD touring. Maybe there will be new incentives after July 5. I hope.

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I will be keeping an eye on the CX-9 info. Love that vehicle.

Me too, if it just supported Android auto it would be the Perfect car. (And if it leased better!)

What were your drive offs? And MSRP? This deal looks very appealing to what I’m looking for? Thanks in advance

CX 9 touring FWD:

MSRP $36,910
Negotiated: 34,500
$2000 down (drive off)

36/12000
Residual ? not sure didn’t say
MF ? no sure
California

Thanks for the info. True car is offering me $2900 off MSRP on a Grand Touring. I will work out the numbers.

let me know what you come up with in terms of numbers. I’m in the market for this but nothing great seemingly out for it yet.

Here are indicative numbers for a CX-9 GT

Honcker is showing the Touring w/ premium package for $368 tax included and $1345 drive off. Seems like a good deal. Thoughts?

Where are you based?

South Florida…