First of all, feel free to take a look at my profile. I have been on this site for a number of years, so before inferring that my recommendation is uninformed, I would strongly suggest you take a look at some of my past comments in other threads.
Again, the OP stated their target monthly for both cars. Their deal is $700 ($1500 - $800) more than what they were aiming for, which breaks down to $350/per car (~$14/month over 2 years).
I don’t run this site. I am just here to keep the peace and make sure all users abide by the community guidelines as mentioned in the post above mine.
Have a good day.
EDIT: I have been providing valuable advice/feedback to users over the years. This is a free site and I don’t get paid to contribute to the community. Folks are free to either take my advice or do whatever they want. I just want to make sure they don’t get taken for a ride for unscrupulous dealers/salesmen.
I made sure to read through your posts in this thread before inquiring.
When I see another person lease this car for $550/month more than than I’m paying and I know they have the same incentives as me its a bit of an eye opener, wouldn’t you agree?
Declaring you want to spend $X isn’t a lease hack. The hack would be to do the calculation beforehand so you know what is possible and reasonable. That knowledge is what is empowering about a site like this.
I don’t see the value add of saying go for it when you have no idea what’s going on in the deal. A couple days ago we had a guy in Florida trying to get the original posted deal matched coming back with different terms, falling for the dealership your car is super hot right now on trade bs and so on. We haven’t heard how that turned out but I’m guessing not the way they were hoping. I hope for their sake it did.
For a site claiming lease hacks I’m surprised to see so much magical thinking going on.
When shopping I can tell you what the dealer discount was, what incentives were applied and so on.
To make an informed recommendation I’d want to know what incentives people are qualified for and can actually get, what financial surprises or variables the customer is bringing with them (bad credit, trade-in, negative equity) and so on.
Some of that is outside the scope of what may be offered but a lot of that magical thinking should be addressed by pointing people to the calculator here or elsewhere, how to determine what their trade is worth, their lease/loan payoff, etc and helping them to understand how the numbers are arrived at. All these things are knowable.
From there it’s just math and people can hack away.
I just want to make sure we are on the same page here. The deal they were offered was for two cars. So I don’t see how you came up with the $550/month number.
We can agree on this. TBH, I don’t always have the time to review a detailed break down of everyone’s deal. OP is free to share their pre-incentive discount for both cars, incentives applied, tax rate, etc.
Not sure what you mean. Not everyone is going to score a crazy deal on a car. I believe someone posted a deal on a 2024 Wagoneer S for $270/month + $2k DAS for 24/10k miles. I am sure folks shopping for this vehicle would love to get the same deal, but we all know that dealers are not in the business of replicating “loser” deals.
Just wanted to clarify
its about $750 /mo both cars now, (“found a coupon”)
DAS for both cars : DMV +Dealer Fee + Tire + 1st Month = ~$1400 for both cars combined
State Tax and Acquisition Fee rolled in.
It would be a RT with the RT Stage 1 and Plus Package MSRP~ $68000
The Wagoneer Limited - also ~$68000
It was mentioned the available incentives (ending this Friday) and some dealer specific coupons. I am going to ask for a breakdown of them (but as you know, always hesitant to give me a break down)
Does this sound like a good , a meh, or a dont do it type of offer?
Combining things like this creates similar noise to what a trade can do to a car deal. Without separating the two cars and understanding each deal it is hard to evaluate. What if I told you that the Wagoneer was a screaming deal but the Charger was bad and/or a Scat Pack could be had for the same price at a different dealer? Would that change your mind about getting both from the same dealership?
A few days ago another user signed at $740/mo with $740 down on one car. I am leasing the same car for ~$190/mo $0 down 24/10. That is what I was referring to.
If you didn’t have time to review a deal why jump in and green light it? On one hand you claim you’re qualified to make recommendations and on the other you don’t have time to. Then pass. You’re just adding noise to those that are taking the time to help.
I guess I’m curious what you consider a loser deal for a dealership. How are you determining that?
Do you know how to use the calculator? I was thinking that would be the quickest way to the information you seek.
It needs your zip code, year, make, model, trim and incentives. It sort of sucks because it doesn’t do any math if you select the BEV coupons. You need to add the value of those below by manually increasing the taxed incentives value.
Have these vehicles been in the CTP and meet the mileage and time requirements to release that big incentive?
With the Dodge on a 24/10 through the incentivized Stellantis program each $1k down is worth about $43/mo in payment. That is why finding a coupon brought you down that amount.
That they ‘found a coupon’ is a sign they’re working you and not the deal. Do some math and we can figure out if you’re in the ballpark.
The discount off the MSRP seem low. Try to get it closer to 10-12% if they want to move a almost 2 year old car. Unfortunately I cant even find one out west. Good luck.
It’s actually about 8%. Any more is coming from somewhere else and it would be good to know where from.
I sat with a sales manager a couple weeks ago and we drilled down to net net on a '24 Charger Scat Pack. With my incentives, CTP and 5 coupons a sign and drive on a $80k car ~$127/mo if he let everything go.
Then he selected adding 1% to the lease rate and it popped up to $177/mo. The dealer trade on that one fell through so he couldn’t get the car but being under $200/mo at another dealership would be reasonable.
So there are a number of moving parts. Just need to know the knowable, amiright? (I try)
I think I spelled them out above but: affliate rebate ($2k), affiliate cash (~$1600, varies by vehicle, have to see amount on invoice, standard June incentives available to all ($4k & $7.5k), 5 BEV coupons ($1k x 5), TDM ($1k) and CPT ($3.5k). MSRP $85965.
The only one others may not qualify for are the affiliate incentives. Unless I’m mistaken, my region covers ND, SD, IA, MN, IA and IL.
haha i know, i was speaking with a sales manager down here and he didnt even know about the bev coupons. its so frusturating dealing with these guys, they dont know jack about their programs.
