So, effectively, the dealer cash is not being applied and there is no dealer discount.
Not to me, it doesn’t and not to intelligent well-prepared customers. If people are that damn stupid, then I don’t think God could help them. The wise people know, the stupid people don’t… it’s not even worth discussing.
That’s probably true as the 2500 dealer cash is nowhere mentioned. However, I can’t assume that it is included in the dealer discount. As a consumer, I would be aware that there is a 2500 dealer cash incentive. IF the dealer told me that the 2500 is already included in the 4470 dealer discount, I would simply respond by saying that the 1970 difference is a very weak dealer discount (3.6%) according to the market as the only out of pocket money from their perspective is 1970… not much skin in the game. We both know that’s likely a HUGE WIN for them!
From voting to purchasing big ticket goods, it’s the dumb bells that make it tough on the rest of us.
We are in a thread where this exact thing is happening. It is very much worth discussing so that people can learn so they don’t fall for the same trap.
All this back and forth… on a soltera thread? Lol OP this is one of the worst new cars on sale. It’s a compliance car. Anything more than free is a bad deal
We don’t know with absolute certainly that this is what is happening. You are surmising or assuming that this is what is happening. You’re probably right but I’m not prepared to say that this is, indeed, occurring. Need more info.
I believe you are right in that the $4,470 is not a Cap Cost Reduction.
The Cap Cos Reductions would be $7,500, which is a manufacturer incentive (applied as if it were a down payment on the lease agreement).
So basically what I’m getting from the above discussion is that the $2,500 dealer cash is probably included in the $4,241, which means the dealer probably has some wiggle room to make it a better deal by increasing their discount.
I’m also hearing that the car is a “compliance car”. Well, aren’t all EVs compliance cars? Yes, looks like the 2023 model sucked as far as charging times, but they have made some improvements on the 2024 model. I’m comparing this to the 2024 Volkswagen ID.4 S, which has a range of 209 miles. They both drive pretty good, and this would be my 2nd (backup) car for just driving around town, not for long distances. So far, only negative I can see are charging times, but Subaru claims to have improved L2 charging from 0-80% in 35 minutes.
Why not just check out an MB Eqe or Eqb? Either are going to be better in practically every department. And even if you go through a broker you’ll possibly be spending less than the solterra
So I went and drove the Subaru Solterra Touring again, and then drove the Toyota BZ4X XLE. They are basically the same car with a few differences, but for some reason, I liked the driving experience on the Subaru Soltera much better. I also spent a lot of time watching review videos and reading people’s complaints about this car, most of which were based on the 2023 model which took about 1 hour to charge on level 3 chargers. This seems to have been improved for 2024.
Anyhow, as this is my first EV and it will be used for short trips around town (I have another car for longer trips) then I don’t mind the drawbacks so much. So I reached out to the dealer and ended up negotiating an 11.3% dealer discount in addition to the $7,500 incentive. So I ended up leasing the Touring trim for $393/mth + TX Sales tax with $0 down, $0 fees, for 36 months / 10k miles/yr.
Perhaps I could have gotten a better deal since it didn’t take much to agree on this one, but I’m ok with it.
In my own opinion, I think all EVs should be leased, especially considering the low re-sell value. They all tend to depreciate so much. So leasing seems to be the way to go, and after 3 years just hand over the keys and get something else. Besides, EV technology is in its infancy, and it will probably change a lot in the next 3 years, so there’s no reason for buying it.
