Way to miss the point.
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I did, my apologies. I understand that it may be unethical in some ways, however I also consider it an exploit. Being immersed in the IT world with my profession, “hackers” work tirelessly for exploits. I ask you to consider the name “LeaseHackr” and keep in mind that “Hackr” means: A person who uses computers to gain unauthorized access to data.
synonyms: cybercriminal, pirate, computer criminal, keylogger, keystroke logger;
In that context, Mr. Bacon lived up to the “Hacker” name and many benefitted from it.
You can justify it all you want. It’s still fraud. Just because someone leaves their front door open doesn’t mean you should walk in and take their TV.
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I hope you don’t go back to that dealer to service your car when/if Lexus rejects your cert. Even if it doesn’t happen, you still used a fraudulent cert to get $1,000.
A hack is a clever solution to a problem. You can ask the admins but I’ll bet they never intended to use the cybercrime connotation of the word.
Whether they did/didn’t, it still embodies the site, which may bring some nefarious tactics in which some are uncomfortable to be associated with. You said it, “A hack is a clever solution to a problem”. Problem: Dealerships like to pull one over on customers sometimes. i.e. THIS GUY. Clever Solution: Utilizing an exploited certificate to level the playing field.
May I suggest you spare us the “Dudley Do Right” speech.
I already did, and they’ve thanked me for helping other customers and directing more business to them. Sometimes that extra $1k can make/break a deal. One of the sales GM’s said “As long as LFS accepts it, we don’t care if it’s a $10k certificate”.
I get it. Since you used the counterfeit certificate yourself, you’ll put forth any self-serving excuse.
I suppose forged art and counterfeit cash are exploits to be lauded as well?
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Might I remind you that we all engage in fraud everyday. Not to get political, but we “pledge allegiance to a flag” of the United Crooks of America. In addition, if you’re at work right now responding to this thread- on the company’s time, then I could make the fraud argument as well. I digress, this is neither the forum, let alone the thread for that. So save it.
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That “responding from work” part was below the belt 
Even if you had the slightest bit of reasonable justification before you went on your little political rant, now you just sound like a jerk.
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Whatever helps you sleep at night…
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I understand that I can be a brash and aggressive individual when it comes to topics such as this. This is an open forum, and I will not refrain from reminding people that we all engage - in some way shape or form, in the textbook definitions of which some deem unacceptable. It’s one of those things that irk me when people post “matter of fact” type comments without acknowledging their unintentional involvement on a specific or broad scale. No one is perfect, we’ve all had poor judgement at some point, and I think we can all agree on that.
unacceptable <> illegal
Don’t try to paint fraud as “unacceptable”
So if it’s not unacceptable, that must mean it is? i.e. Is fraud unacceptable? Yes or No.
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unacceptable - not satisfactory or allowable
illegal - contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law
See the difference? But fraud is a gray area for you, I guess
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I learn from the best. ref. President Trump.
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Calling a baby ugly in front of their parents is a generally unacceptable practice, but it is not illegal.
Kidnapping said ugly baby is definitely illegal.
For someone to think there is no difference between the 2 terms is, well…as POTUS would say, “Sad!”.
I must have missed the fraud event. Someone feel free to backfill me in on that. 
He he he he … I guess the Lexus GM is not at all disturbed by moral turpitude and financial sleight of hand 
I don’t think the term fraud applies to this. It was more like a loophole in Lexus PGA certification process. Fraud would be if they knowingly and willingly tried to steal $1k from Lexus. An example would be if the GM and Million got the names of people who leased lexus and then, without their knowledge, made up the certificates in the lessees names and collected the rebate.
In the case of an Actual Lessee collecting the rebate, it could be argued that Lexus always intended for the certificate to be used as a promotional event for future Lexus lessees. Chrispbacon just found a loophole to generate those coupons.
In any case, enjoy the Lexus and don’t do it again
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That was the most balanced response to this contentious topics so far.
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